Frontier MattersMichel Deelen on Trade and Diplomacy0:00Current time: 0:00 / Total time: -53:18-53:18Paid episodeThe full episode is only available to paid subscribers of 1914 ReaderSubscribe to listenMichel Deelen on Trade and DiplomacyCome for AfCFTA, stay for the moin-moin and suyaTobi LawsonJul 16, 2025∙ Paid112ShareTobi sat down with Michel Deelen, the Dutch Consul General to Nigeria, in Lagos for a discussion on the intersection between trade, business and diplomacy. There was also time for cover music and food. Hope you enjoy listening. This post is for paid subscribersSubscribeAlready a paid subscriber? Sign inFrontier MattersBold Conversations on Growth and ChangeBold Conversations on Growth and Change SubscribeListen onSubstack AppApple PodcastsSpotifyPocket CastsRSS FeedAppears in episodeTobi LawsonRecent EpisodesThe Perils of AISep 10 • Feyi Fawehinmi and Tobi LawsonOuttakes from The Billionaire's Contradiction Aug 27 • Feyi Fawehinmi and Tobi LawsonWhat AI Can - and Can’t - Do for Nigeria and AfricaAug 13 • Feyi Fawehinmi and Tobi LawsonCharlie Robertson on Fertility, Electricity and LiteracyJul 30 • Tobi Lawson and Feyi FawehinmiFola Fagbule on the Bull Case for NigeriaJul 2 • Feyi Fawehinmi and Tobi LawsonA.G. Hopkins on African Agency in HistoryJun 18 • Feyi Fawehinmi and Tobi LawsonIré Hassan-Odukale on the Globalisation of Nigerian SpicesJun 4 • Feyi Fawehinmi and Tobi Lawson