Frontier MattersMichel Deelen on Trade and Diplomacy1121×0:00Current time: 0:00 / Total time: -53:18-53:18Audio playback is not supported on your browser. Please upgrade.Michel Deelen on Trade and DiplomacyCome for AfCFTA, stay for the moin-moin and suyaTobi LawsonJul 16, 2025112ShareTranscriptTobi sat down with Michel Deelen, the Dutch Consul General to Nigeria, in Lagos for a discussion on the intersection between trade, business and diplomacy. There was also time for cover music and food. Hope you enjoy listening. Discussion about this episodeCommentsRestacksFrontier MattersBold Conversations on Growth and Change Bold Conversations on Growth and Change SubscribeListen onSubstack AppApple PodcastsSpotifyPocket CastsRSS FeedAppears in episodeTobi LawsonRecent EpisodesCarlos Barragán on Yahoo BoysJun 17 • Feyi Fawehinmi and Tobi LawsonChris Ihidero on Nollywood's Grass and TreesJun 3 • Feyi Fawehinmi and Tobi LawsonFunsho Doherty on the Past, Present, and Future of LagosMay 28 • Feyi Fawehinmi and Tobi LawsonHannah Ryder on Africa in ChinaMay 13 • Feyi Fawehinmi and Tobi LawsonEfosa Ojomo on Markets, Prosperity and Clayton ChristensenMay 6 • Feyi FawehinmiCarl-Henri Prophète on The Reality of HaitiApr 15 • Feyi Fawehinmi and Tobi LawsonDon Robotham on Bridging The Atlantic DivideMar 18 • Tobi LawsonDan Wang on China as a Developmental-StateMar 4 • Tobi Lawson and Feyi Fawehinmi